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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.17 19:32:45 -
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FireFrenzy wrote:I also like the "5 mids with a bunch of lows for armor/gank" aspect alot... But as stated i am far from an expert...
I seem to recall CCP asking what players would think of a -1 mid +1 low version of the tempest in another announcement thread around the kronos expansion somewhere...
Problem with tempest is it has the same slot layout with typhoon FI. Plus with double damage bonus, dps is mediocre with armor tank. Typhoon FI is much better IMO than tempest.
Id like to see a low moved to a mid to have a shield BS other than mael. Nanopest returns? |
Stitch Kaneland
Trust Doesn't Rust
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.05.11 18:58:26 -
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I think the phoon is in a good spot atm. Both the t1 and fleet versions. The pest is.... well i dont fly them because they have no role to speak of really. The fleet pest is a alittle better because the extra grid allows for some fun fits (triple repd, dual cap boosted or arty doctrine).
The big issue i have is with the fleet cane. The whole "its the old cane" irks me alil. There is no more "old cane" anymore, the old cane died with TE and speed nerf, now its just an overpriced husk of its former self. Every other faction BC has tracking/application bonuses, except the cane. Stuck with the same dmg/rof bonus as the t1 version. I would rather see the fleet cane look something like this:
Hurricane fleet issue
10% damage per level
7.5% tracking per level
And IF my projection changes go through, faction BCs will have a very strong role with application and range bonuses (like destroyers). This will seperate them from CS and the t1 variants. Since CS will have either range + tank or application + tank. The t1s will only have range, but less application and tank.
A couple faction bcs in a gang will definitely hurt the cruiser blobs with those bonuses. Unlike now, where faction bc barely see any use.
Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 02:08:39 -
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James Baboli wrote:elitatwo wrote:
Where do you think Stich got that idea from? I like what he is doing and he isn't wrong to do it.
I'll credit Stich with the idea himself, as my thread had mostly gone dormant for at least a few weeks when he posted that. More work on the spreadsheet coming soon, and revised numbers based on the buffer and prop mod changes, as well as the sentry nerfs. Now, a couple questions to the readers: How much better would navy battleships need to be to be worth it to you to fly them? Would you still fly pirate or t2 hulls if you currently do if they were that much better? If not, what would make you want to fly or keep flying the t2 and pirate hulls if navy hulls go better?
I don't think the navy BS need a huge buff, except maybe the navy geddon (i can't think of a good role for it). I cannot speak on all the navy/fleet ships since i haven't flown them all, but out of the 2 i have flown i have this to say.
Typhoon FI
Very good ship. Extremely flexible between guns/missiles. Can fit dual heavy neuts with bonused missiles and has a large drone bay to work with as well. Probably one of my favorite ships to fly in general.
Tempest FI
Outside a few niche fits i've made (triple rep armor tank), its kind of meh. It does see fleet use though, so in that role it seems to perform fairly well. I'd like to see it maybe get a 10% dmg 7.5% tracking bonus to make it a little more distinctive from t1 pest, and make it better as an arty platform.
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
307
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Posted - 2015.06.11 20:05:36 -
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FT Cold wrote:Navy geddon is pretty underwhelming, as is the navy domi. People like to whine about the typhoon fleet issue, but it's a decent niche fleet ship, even if it's very dependent on triage, TP, and web loki support
RHML FI phoon is pretty beast. 120k+ EHP, 850-1200 burst dps, dual heavy neuts, mjd and 4 utility mids means i face roll just about anything that isnt another BS. I actually 2-3 shotted a jackdaw the other day in it.
Navy geddon seems to be the most useless imo.
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
438
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Posted - 2015.07.23 18:33:03 -
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elitatwo wrote:The buildcost in minerals was what I meant with price increase. They still don't warrant any of it. Battlecruisers didn't warrant the increase either but Stich is already fighting for them and CCP said something about a change to them after the tournament, so fingers crossed.
Whens the tourney? I wants to hear about BC changes now! 
I Keep checking the forums, hoping to see a new blue post.. but nooo. CCP master of suspense.
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:18:08 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:FireFrenzy wrote:I checked the flagships for the AT and they seemed to be Geddons, bhaals, PhoonFleets, some scorp navy's and a rattlesnake or two..
IE, all the ships we know are decent and mostly the same ones... no idea
Fleet phoon is sexy. Just not sure of its use in AT. I mean RHML works well on it, or with proper support cruise missiles can get huge volley amounts (i want to say 7-8k).
I just came here mainly to say.. wheres the BC rebalance thread? :)
(Yes i know, after AT....)
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.08 02:43:15 -
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Something i noticed while flying the maelstrom that is kind of odd for a BS.
It has a tiny cargo bay. In general, BS probably need a buff (some more than others) to their cargo. The reason I single the maelstrom out is that it has a shield boost bonus. Its intended to be using and storing cap boosters, yet has a fairly small cargo capacity. The vaga used to suffer from this, but CCP heard my plee and buffed it during 1st round of HAC rebalances (when muninn got speed buff).
So as an addition to the hopefully soon BS/BC rebalance, i'd like CCP to also consider buffing their cargo capacities.
Quick comparo:
Maelstrom: 550m3
Rokh: 625m3
Hyperion: 675m3
Abaddon: 525m3
Tempest: 600m3
Mega: 675m3
Raven : 665m3
Geddon: 600m3
The Abaddon is actually worse than the mael, and is another ship that insists on having a cap booster. However, laser ammo does not take up the heaps of room projectile ammo does (at least if you carry 2k of EMP/fusion/PP/sabot).
I'd say bumping the abaddon up at least another 75m3 (600m3) and the mael up 100m3 (650m3).
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